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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2007.09.10 15:36:00 -
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Average roaming gang from any of the top entities these days consists of roughly 60%+ Minmatar. Theres a few ships with minor problems but in comparison to some Amarr & Caldari ships they're a world apart.
I've always been a Caldari main but since training my alt to fly Minmatar hacs/recons and everything below 90% of my pvp has been done with my alt. I'm even struggling to find an excuse to break out my Crow these days. Minmatar are almost on a par with Gallente now in terms of variety of ships that a useful to have.
Hands down the best judge of balance is whether or not many people fly the ship in its intended role. Does anyone really think otherwise?
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2007.09.10 19:51:00 -
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Is this some kind of elaborate joke?
Artillery are low tracking, low dps weapons. This counterbalances their insane alpha strike capabilities which should not be shunned in fleet warfare, ever.
If you're trying to use them with close range setups with web or painting then its no bloody surprise is it? Don't try and get dps out of them, thats not what they do and if they did people would be fitting them to their frekkin' Rokhs, nevermind Apocs!
My alt uses artillery aswell and they're probably my second favourite turret (after autocannons). They're just fine as they are.
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2007.09.11 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/09/2007 14:11:35
Tempests get shot early because they have weak tanks? No (it may be a very small consideration), they got shot early for the reasons Goumindong said they do. Because they put out a comparitively large amount of damage in a fleet situation. When each target lasts for 6-7seconds which ship do you think does the most damage? Tempests(maelstroms), by some margin.
The Abaddon may edge it against shield tankers (low thermal/em) but you don't exactly see hundreds of rokhs & ravens in a fleet fight do you? Also you're forgetting that the Abaddon costs a full 40million extra to build than the tempest, its a tier 3 bs.
As it stands tempests are about the most important damage dealer in fleet, megathrons pad things out and provide better support against smaller targets. When you want to kill lots of battleships fast theres one ship that does it better than the rest and thats a tempest.
Artillery is fine, if it gets any better its going to be getting a tad unbalanced. Apocs fitting artillery should be a big clue.
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2007.09.11 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/09/2007 14:26:21
 Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: welsh wizard
Artillery is fine, if it gets any better its going to be getting a tad unbalanced. Apocs fitting artillery should be a big clue.
The fact that noone has seen any Apocs with Artillery in the last 2 years or so is a big clue, yes.
Artillery needs a boost ...
Clearly you've been sat in a dark room with a bucket on your head for some time.
I wouldn't exactly be devastated if my arty ships got boosted but it isn't in the interest of the game.
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2007.09.11 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/09/2007 14:40:44
Clearly you're you're someone who isn't interested in debating the actual issue, you'd rather exchange petty snipes.
Find someone else to do it with bro.
edit: Artillery is fantastic on the recons, muninn, atleast half of the frigs and the maelstrom. It's equally as useful on the Pest aswell. Minmatar easily have the best balanced weapons systems (for pvp, even if they do take longer to train).
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2007.09.12 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 12/09/2007 11:54:40
nm, wont happen anyway
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